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17 June 2012 @ 04:27 pm
Dishonored - Male PC Only  
I've been pretty excited about Dishonored, particularly when I noted that Bethesda was involved; publishing, not developing, which I guess is the rub. I finally noticed today that the only option for the PC is a male Corvo. Anybody else bummed/cheesed/annoyed? I know I am.
 
 
 
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Sky T: Yarrladyelysium on June 17th, 2012 07:52 pm (UTC)

I'm not annoyed at all. They have written a story with a male protagonist so decided to go with just that. I don't believe there is anything wrong with that.

I think being able to choose a female/male character works well in some games and not so well in others, it really boils down to the story they are trying to tell. After all, could you see many people choosing to play as Larry Croft if given the option? It would be a waste of time/money for the developers and I don't think anyone can hate them for that.

I'm looking forward to Dishonored and playing as Corvo.
Reaperfiercereaper on June 17th, 2012 08:04 pm (UTC)
Re:
Since there was never the option for a Larry, I can't speculate. Considering the popularity of Uncharted and the plethora of other games that give you no choice, probably more than a few if the game was good enough.

Like commenter below stated, Bethesda(ETA:as the developer, I should say) and Bioware pull it off just fine.

Edited at 2012-06-17 08:09 pm (UTC)
Sky T: Yarrladyelysium on June 17th, 2012 08:37 pm (UTC)
They've got the money to be able to do it though and not many developers will even be allowed the choice of having two genders available in their games, especially if they need to develop a personality for their protagonist (like ME) and not have them as a silent, boring, blank slate (like Fallout).

I didn't realise that there were female gamers had an issue with engaging with male protagonists. I've never had a problem with it and I really enjoy "being" Agent 47, Ezio, Marcus Fenix etc.
Hold on until it's over.jadziadrgnrdr on June 17th, 2012 07:58 pm (UTC)
I wasn't bummed because I could tell from the trailer I saw some months ago that it was a set story with a set protagonist, but yeah I think Bioware and Bethesda have kinda ruined me. I bought Deus Ex the other day and only played it for a few minutes before my mind started to wander. lol. I just gotta get my 'ability to play as some random dude' skill up again. We did it most of our lives. We can do it again! lol
Reaperfiercereaper on June 17th, 2012 08:06 pm (UTC)
Ditto on the Bioware/Bethesda. Sad thing is, I don't think I can do it again. I've got three games sitting on my desktop that I can't finish past the 50% mark or so because I just can't engage anymore.
The Voice Of Reason: pic#117705790ellonwye on June 17th, 2012 08:08 pm (UTC)
I'm pretty guilty of just switching off when I see a new game coming out with a set male protagonist. The game might be great but I just can't bring myself to give any kind of toss about male characters anymore.
Reaperfiercereaper on June 17th, 2012 08:10 pm (UTC)
I couldn't even make it through Arkham Asylum. If being the goddamned Batman wasn't awesome enough to hold my attention, I figured I was done.
Sky T: Yarrladyelysium on June 17th, 2012 08:25 pm (UTC)
Try Arkham City, you can play as Catwoman for large portions of the game.
Hold on until it's over.jadziadrgnrdr on June 17th, 2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
Awww that sucks!

Long live DLC then! lol
Dawndevilduckie831 on June 17th, 2012 08:30 pm (UTC)
Why would I be? Protagonist gender is rather irrelevant to me as long as the game is good. Some of my favorite games/series feature a male protagonist; Bioshock, The Saboteur, Assassin's Creed, Metal Gear Solid, Hitman, Batman: Arkham Asylum... The list goes on. I really don't understand what the big deal is...
The Voice Of Reason: pic#117705790ellonwye on June 17th, 2012 09:12 pm (UTC)
It's not a big deal, for me personally part of playing a game is playing pretend that I'm the protagonist and if it's a man I'm just really bored of that and can't connect with 'em very well anymore, whereas I find it easier with a woman. Women are just more appealing to me (in a few ways!) and it's gotten to the point that I'm really noticing how many male leads there are and how dull that is to me. Maybe fiercereaper feels the same in some way.

e: hi wow html

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Reaperfiercereaper on June 17th, 2012 09:28 pm (UTC)
Nail on the head, and those female protagonists that do exist, at least I personally find, are usually not really made for female players. The levels of misogyny and sexism are just blegh. I don't really want to play as Catwoman if every other thug is calling me a b*tch.

It's a lot easier to pretend and immerse myself with a F!PC, and I'm used to bigass games with Bethesda attached giving me that.

With an M!PC it's more, "Well, here's another dude I have to steer around and watch do things."
mana_runighamana_runigha on June 18th, 2012 01:19 am (UTC)
But that is what makes taking those thugs down so sweet!!
quixotic_coffee on June 17th, 2012 11:30 pm (UTC)
Because some women are really sick of male characters being the only option in a lot of games? I would have thought no one would need that explained to them in this community.
darth_silver: Blackreachdarth_eldritch on June 17th, 2012 09:11 pm (UTC)
As someone who loves playing male PCs, I get you. It's my understanding that some players can get into the game more if they play a female PC. And there is nothing wrong with that.
Reaperfiercereaper on June 17th, 2012 09:29 pm (UTC)
Thanks. :)
darth_silver: Mortisdarth_eldritch on June 17th, 2012 09:32 pm (UTC)
Your're welcome :)
La Libertine: Adam Jensenla_libertine on June 17th, 2012 09:28 pm (UTC)
I can understand why you'd be disappointed, but for me personally it's not a big deal. Some of my favourite games have been male protagonist only (DX:HR, Thief, etc etc). I think it just depends on your expectations and how good the story of the game is. We've never been shown a female protagonist with this game, so I never expected it.
Reaperfiercereaper on June 17th, 2012 09:31 pm (UTC)
It's my own fault for not doing more than skim when I first saw it really, but I'm used to not seeing a female protagonist option advertised, crappy as that is.
La Libertine: self shepla_libertine on June 17th, 2012 10:39 pm (UTC)
That's true. There are very few games which actively advertise as having a female protagonist.

There are even fewer games that have a female protagonist who wasn't designed with male players in mind. I'd rather play a male protagonist with a good storyline, than a female protagonist who makes me uncomfortable because she's wank bait, wandering about in revealing clothes, etc etc.
Angel of the Odd: Talioddityangel on June 17th, 2012 09:30 pm (UTC)
I can't claim to be bummed/cheesed or annoyed in anything but the most general sense, since I haven't heard anything about this game until now.

I'm always a little put out when there's no female option in an RPG, since part of the fun of those sorts of games, imho, is 'creating' your own character. Though from what I read Dishonored is an action game with a linear plot, so it doesn't bother me as much as it could. Still, I always feel like developers are playing it safe when they stick to the same male, straight and (typically) white protagonist, and that's pretty disappointing in its own way.

I'd be pretty impressed if we started to see lots of games that featured different sorts of protagonists.

Edited at 2012-06-17 09:31 pm (UTC)
darth_silver: Skyrim vacationdarth_eldritch on June 17th, 2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
Well said.
Reaperfiercereaper on June 17th, 2012 09:40 pm (UTC)
I agree.

ETA: I knew I had a bookmark for this somewhere. 85% of characters in games are male, rises to 90% for playable characters.

http://nms.sagepub.com/content/11/5/815.abstract

Edited at 2012-06-17 09:47 pm (UTC)
Angel of the Odd: Odd tasteoddityangel on June 18th, 2012 02:06 pm (UTC)
That's depressing, but not all that surprising. It's part of the reason I'm excited about the newest games in the Assassins' Creed franchise, despite not finishing the second game. Two non-white protagonists, one of which is an awesome looking woman? Sign me up! Connor and Aveline are definitely a step in the right direction.

Thanks for the link, I'm definitely going to save the study.
the one who is sick of rainrandomcheeses on June 18th, 2012 08:59 am (UTC)
Yes, this.
Sakura123weber_dubois22 on June 17th, 2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
I'd be more put out if the character was originally intended to a Woman/WOC and they changed it into a white male character, but other than that, this news barely scratches the interest meter of "ragequit".
Reaperfiercereaper on June 18th, 2012 12:48 am (UTC)
Not really ragey, more just tired irritation.
quixotic_coffee on June 17th, 2012 11:33 pm (UTC)
I don't know what Dishonored is but I did feel kind of weird playing The Witcher. It was a really fun game but I didn't feel it was made with me in mind and that makes me kind of sad.
Reaperfiercereaper on June 18th, 2012 12:50 am (UTC)
That's one of the games I couldn't finish up. The second one looks amazing, but if I can't find the motivation to complete the first one, well.
LiLxa_is4addiction on June 18th, 2012 03:10 am (UTC)
No, for a couple of reasons:

a) It's a written storyline with a male protagonist. If it was a Skyrim-like game, I would expect to see the option for a female character, but IMO there is nothing wrong with writing a story featuring a male lead.

b) I always play as a male anyway. All of my favorite games have male protagonists. I've personally never played a game with a female protagonist, which suits me just fine.
Angel of the Odd: Leopard Queenoddityangel on June 18th, 2012 09:36 am (UTC)
Mind if I ask you why you always play as a male?
zedrobberzedrobber on June 18th, 2012 11:10 am (UTC)
I hate playing as a female anyway so I'm not annoyed at all, but I can see how some ladies might be :-( it's always cool to have a choice, even if I never take it xD
Angel of the Odd: Styleoddityangel on June 18th, 2012 01:49 pm (UTC)
Why do you hate playing as a woman?

I'm sorry for being so nosy in this topic, but I'm honestly really confused and curious.
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