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25 March 2011 @ 04:53 pm
Bioware pwns privilege  
So it seems a straight male gamer complained that he didn't like having male characters hit on him in the game. Poor baby. The detailed reply from a Bioware employee will just fill your little girl-gamer and gay-gamer hearts with glee. Even my straight-gamer heart grew three sizes today.

http://www.afterelton.com/other/2011/03/bioware-dragon-age-2-straight-men-complain-gay-men
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ChunginHopanyee on March 25th, 2011 09:14 pm (UTC)
My snarky and NSFW retort

It's nice that Bioware is doing this in DA, but what the hell happened in ME1 and 2? No male homosexual relationship possibilities, one sort-of romance in ME2 for lesbian romance? Why?
hobbit: dragon age 2 // fenris the freshmakermiddlemarching on March 25th, 2011 09:21 pm (UTC)
I think the ME team put out a response stating that Shepard's character was just "not gay." Which is dumb and obviously a crock since female Shepard can get her groove on with Liara in ME and have a Touching Moment with either Samara or Morinth in ME2. Lame lame lame. Oh, and let's not forget Dirty Dancing Kelly in the captain's quarters.

As for the OP's link, my heart exploded with all kinds of love for him after I read that response. :D He's so eloquent and forthright. ilu Gaider, you're the best.

Edited at 2011-03-25 09:22 pm (UTC)
ChunginHopanyee on March 25th, 2011 09:28 pm (UTC)
That feels sort of stupid, especially considering Not-gay Shepard happily continues her romance with Liara in LoTSB, if you stay faithful.
hobbitmiddlemarching on March 25th, 2011 09:31 pm (UTC)
It's not even sort of stupid, it is the epitome of nonsensical rubbish. ): John Shepard should get to have clumsy clothed sexy time with Kaidan Alenko or awkward gross-species funtime with Garrus Vakarian if he wants to. Boo hiss.
darth_silver: HK-47 on Reddarth_eldritch on March 25th, 2011 09:25 pm (UTC)
It's refreshing and it's a start...
The Hammer Of Heaven: Honor(Giri)sixswordsamurai on March 25th, 2011 09:44 pm (UTC)
I totally accidentally made my Hawke fall in love with Anders.

As a straight male? I approve. I'm not playing this game to get my jollys off by seeing Girlparts or boyparts, I'm playing this game to experience the Joy that is this incarnation of Hawke (gay, straight, or otherwise) It frustrates me that People are this closed minded, but it's everywhere, and sad. This is maybe one small step to combating ignorance. The next one might be bigger.
ほっこりしませんか?rirakuma on March 25th, 2011 09:51 pm (UTC)
I like the way the guy just plucks some statistics out the air and how he knows that 5% is a generous percentage. What an idiot.
shukivengeanceshukivengeance on March 25th, 2011 10:10 pm (UTC)
Gaider got a million respect points from me for this.

It is ridiculous how this sense of 'privilege' led this guy to complain about other people having the exact same amount of options, rather than straight males being specially catered to. The romance options all being available for both genders was something I LOVED about DA2.

My only criticism of the homosexual flirting is that you get three choices "NO FUCK OFF" "Yes I like it" "Yes it's unexpected". The unsolicited flirting should have a way to turn anders down without upsetting him but other than that, I believe that making all options open to everyone is definitely the way to go. It's why people modded the game to romance tali as femshep and romance morrigan as femwarden, but now all options are available for everyone it's an "issue".

Well played, Mr Gaider for putting that homophobic twat in his place.
Amber: FFXIII // Hope // Urgh ./////.yuki_rakuen on March 25th, 2011 10:42 pm (UTC)
I went to read the original thread that Bioware responded to. Wasn't happy with what was written there but David Gaider responded beautifully to it.

Bravo Bioware, bravo. :D

Erin aka Budspookycat04 on March 26th, 2011 12:58 am (UTC)
"Now immediately I'm sure that some male gamers are going to be like "YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR ME! I LOVE DRAGON AGE 2!", but you have to understand, the Straight Male Gamer, cannot be just lumped into a single category."

I think that was my favorite line from the straight male gamer.
Amberyuki_rakuen on March 26th, 2011 01:36 am (UTC)
HAHA yes! Mine too!
shukivengeanceshukivengeance on March 26th, 2011 01:52 am (UTC)
Thirded, it delightfully tickled my hypocrisy buds.
hintomint82: Baronesshintomint82 on March 25th, 2011 10:47 pm (UTC)
Truth be told, I don't think this guy deserved the honor of a response from one of the game's writers. I wouldn't have dignified him with an answer.
I refuse to give up my obsessionendlessdeep on March 25th, 2011 10:56 pm (UTC)
Excellent answer Bioware/Gaider. :)
killiarakilliara on March 25th, 2011 11:02 pm (UTC)
I never quite got why straight males feel absolutely threatened by the thought of another man finding them attractive. Are they that used to being the person that leers that it's an affront to everything they are, rather than just 'take it as a compliment' the way girls are always told?
gaming_mommagaming_momma on March 25th, 2011 11:27 pm (UTC)
I always tell guys that a man who is secure in his sexuality is 100% comfortable with gay men. A man who is not comfortable is the one who has questions about himself. It actually made several of my male friends kinda be like... ok, I can be cool. I know I love women, so I don't have to hate on men for their choices.

This guy who was complaining is probably a raging homosexual just waiting to bust out of the closet lol j/k but who really knows???
Annapersephoneia on March 26th, 2011 01:20 am (UTC)
Actually, I can believe it because studies show that those that are the most uncomfortable with gay men and freak about being hit on and such tend to be the ones that will "respond" to gay porn more so than those that are comfortable with their gay brothers.
gaming_mommagaming_momma on March 26th, 2011 03:09 pm (UTC)
yes. that is exactly the kind of research I am talking about. I seen several studies about homophobia.
shukivengeanceshukivengeance on March 26th, 2011 12:01 am (UTC)
I'd say the answer to your question is yes, unfortunately.
not hotheadnot_hothead_yet on March 26th, 2011 04:18 am (UTC)
I'm convinced its because Scared Straight Males truly believe a man's sexuality is a volatile thing, liable to "explode" into rape at any moment. If a man hits on them then they take the risk of offending him when they scorn him and we all know what men do when they are scorned right? They turn into raging rape-machines. That's fine if you're a woman, you're SUPPOSED to deal with that but a Scared Straight Male is supposed to have privilege.
Satellite Anthem Icarus: (dp) Right Zach?copy on March 25th, 2011 11:10 pm (UTC)
I like how he keeps writing it as The Straight Male Gamer, as if it's some sort of worthy title.
Sumanyappnyappcafe on March 26th, 2011 12:13 am (UTC)
LOL FOREVER.
Barbid_anonymous on March 26th, 2011 01:28 am (UTC)
This response from Bioware makes me happy.
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We will never be a nuclear family...dawning_horizon on March 26th, 2011 09:22 am (UTC)
Totally agreed :)
We will never be a nuclear family...dawning_horizon on March 26th, 2011 09:21 am (UTC)
<3 this!

Hopefully they keep up the good work into future games, including ME3.
Callieclockworkcallie on March 26th, 2011 01:35 pm (UTC)
seravee00seravee00 on March 26th, 2011 02:52 pm (UTC)
I just read this morning. <3 for Bioware.
tittamiiretittamiire on March 26th, 2011 07:56 pm (UTC)
This was a brilliant response to read. I played through Origins with various permutations of romances and different genders for my main character. It's a game dude, the character is not you.
The Phantom of the Library: Fran and Balthierringwraith10 on March 27th, 2011 08:00 pm (UTC)
This article made me very happy. Bioware is definitely currently on my "good list".